Keyless Ignition fitted to my H2 SX SE

[Prof J]

Champ87, did you leave your OEM key hard mounting on the tree or remove it?

For my old 14, I removed it from the tree and then modded the upper mount.

[Champ87]

Champ87, did you leave your OEM key hard mounting on the tree or remove it?

I left it in place. It is disconnected so serves no function other than the limited protection it provides as a steering lock. The main reason I left it in place is because I just couldn't be bothered to remove the top triple clamp to remove the anti-tamper screws.

On my Triumph Sprint I also left the switch in place and configured the wiring so that ignition switch could be brought back into play if I ever suffered a problem with the keyless setup. After experiencing the reliability of that system I was less concerned about having backup on my SE. Just as well really because keeping the ignition switch working alongside the keyless setup required some mods to the harness, which I wasn't prepared to do.

I still have the option to disconnect the keyless and reconnect the ignition switch if I ever suffer a problem. However, it would require access inside the nose fairing - not something I'd want to do beside the road, a long way from home on a road trip.

[Buco-69-]

where can I buy it?
Price?

As I mentioned in an earlier post, my friend DEcosse doesn't sell his keyless systems as a business. But he does get a constant stream of inquiries, most through the Triumph forums, and is usually willing to make one if asked.

I can't really tell you the cost. Mine was the first system for an H2 SX SE so it was a development project with me doing a lot of work myself with DEcosse's guidance. With that in mind, I'd be seriously pissed off if DEcosse sold you a system for anywhere close to what I paid. Maybe he will.

If you're interested then PM me and I'll give you DEcosse's email address.

Hi Champ.
I'm interested in that keyless system for my bike.
I just have one question. Is it possible NOT to bypass for the stand??
Thanx for the fast response and your effort.

Esmir
Sweden

[Buco-69-]

Hi Champ.
I'm interested in that keyless system for my bike.
I just have one question. Is it possible NOT to bypass for the stand??
Thanx for the fast response and your effort.

Esmir
Sweden

[Champ87]

I just have one question. Is it possible NOT to bypass for the stand??

Yes, totally. However, if you don't bypass the sidestand switch then you must put the sidestand up to turn ignition On using this keyless system. Once ignition is on you could put the sidestand down and start the bike just the same.

That's what Kawasaki has given us. We tried to find a way to make it work but, in the end, tricking the system into thinking the sidestand is up was the only solution.

[Champ87]

I'm interested in that keyless system for my bike.
Esmir
Sweden

Esmir - earlier I didn't look at your location - Malmö. I assume your SE+ has an immobilizer. That creates another problem that owners of Euro models should be aware of when considering any keyless system. Obviously, Kawasaki don't make it easy to bypass the immobilizer. We don't know a neat way around it and we couldn't experiment because my SE doesn't have an immobilizer.

We do know a not-so-neat way - simply attach the key out of sight but close to the immobilizer antenna (within a few cm). Of course, that makes the immobilizer useless. There is no risk of someone finding the key and using it to start the bike because it won't work.

The keyless system provides additional protection because the system cannot be disarmed unless the remote is present. It also has a built-in security feature so even if a thief tries to disconnect the keyless and hot-wire the bike, it won't start if the ECU can't see the keyless system.

In my view, an aftermarket keyless system is not really viable on a Euro model SX. The steps needed to bypass the immobilizer seem like a messy solution. I would also be concerned how an insurance company would handle a theft claim if they discovered an owner has disabled the immobilizer. Obviously, not an issue on US bikes that don't have an immobilizer.

[Buco-69-]

Thanks Champ. You'r right. The Insurance here in sweden is insane. It's not worth it.

But thanks for your effort..

[slidermike]

Champ, I would be interested in getting in on the keyless action for my 2020 SX SE +.
Would you mind sharing your buddies info?
Thank you

[Prof J]

I just have one question. Is it possible NOT to bypass for the stand??

Yes, totally. However, if you don't bypass the sidestand switch then you must put the sidestand up to turn ignition On using this keyless system. Once ignition is on you could put the sidestand down and start the bike just the same.

That's what Kawasaki has given us. We tried to find a way to make it work but, in the end, tricking the system into thinking the sidestand is up was the only solution.

Eventually I found needing to have the kickstand 'up' to start the bike more inconvenient than it was worth, so I de-inserted the kickstand position sensor from the back of the kickstand, leaving in in the 'up' position, so it disables the need for the kickstand to be in the 'up' position so start the bike.

[Champ87]

For mine I simply made up a bypass connector in place of the sidestand connection. I could have just bought one on eBay but I had the right connectors so wasn't a big deal to make one up. They're quite a common thing for track bikes or anyone wanting to remove the sidestand for trackdays. Easy to restore normal operation by removing the bypasss connector and plugging the sidestand back into the harness.