Coatings and anti theft

[Fitz]

Whats the consensus on new stuff like ceramic coatings vs 3m clear bra?


I commute and park at a jail, it's somewhat secure but still more of a rough area than I'd want to leave it for 12 hours at a time. Never really did anything besides locking the front wheel with the key. What's fairly cost effective, are GPS tags any good etc?

[terrordbn]

Some folks have been installing these on their H2's. I am seriously considering one.

http://roadlok.com/

Aaron

[theoldone]

The H2 SX is not listed. Do you know which Kawasaki model that is listed that fits?

[Zotto]

Every new vehicle i purchase has 3m done to it, and as for my H2 SX SE i will be Ceramic coating the wheels as well - more so for the rear for cleaning purposes.

[2HYPR]

Ceramic coating for the win, just foam cannon, quick wash then rinse - off with a blower and wipe with micro fiber cloth and it's good as new...

[terrordbn]

The H2 SX is not listed. Do you know which Kawasaki model that is listed that fits?

Sent an email to their support and they came back with the "ROADLOK XRA JapanSport".

Aaron

[XcelleraThor]

Some folks have been installing these on their H2's. I am seriously considering one.

http://roadlok.com/

Aaron

Thanks for drawing our attention to this fancy looking type of disklock. No, it really looks neat and is a modern interpretation of this concept!

The only problem with this kind of lock type in general is, the bike can be carried away. Take two guys, each capable of carrying 100kg, have them slip belts thru the wheels, off it goes on a car trailer. That's exactly what happened to a neighbor of mine two blocks away from where we both live.

He parked his Hayabusa for a brief stay at his office on a Saturday afternoon to drop off some paperwork and when he got back to where his bike should have been, it was gone! As he was telling me the story, he remembered seeing a larger van with a lot of stickers on it SLOWLY passing him, while he was getting off and parking and he had a a gut feeling :-( Shit!

I live in an area VERY near to the borders of Belgium and the Netherlands and the percentage I pay for theft insurance is untypically high for Germany.

I only got this disc lock 18y ago for my CBR, because it has a siren, which goes off, when it and the bike is moved:

Even then, spray some (shaving) foam on the speaker and thieves are probably good to go :-(

The Queen is currently wearing it with dignity in my garage, while in hibernation, until I get one or two of these:
https://www.abus.com/ger/Media/Multimed ... Bodenanker#

And then I'll use the locks I immobilize my bike with by attaching the front wheel (when closely snuggled up) to a streetlamp etc., when I go to Cologne or elsewhere for a night out and cannot park the bike in an underground car park (way better, because out of sight, out of mind).

Newer hardened version I got for the Queen

and the chain I used to immobilize my XJ600/CBR600 with (Gosh! It's been quite a while since!)

GPS markers sound nice, but have them store the bike in an underground car park, right after stealing it...

I know what my Garmin says, when I park my bike at the companies underground carpark!

[Burmashave]

He parked his Hayabusa for a brief stay at his office on a Saturday afternoon to drop off some paperwork and when he got back to where his bike should have been, it was gone! As he was telling me the story, he remembered seeing a larger van with a lot of stickers on it SLOWLY passing him, while he was getting off and parking and he had a a gut feeling :-( Shit!

For what it's worth, I'll toss this out. Sometime ago I read an interview with a former motorcycle thief. He stated that one of the best things you can do to secure your bike is to cover it when parked. The reason is that thieves want to nonchalantly case the target to see exactly what they're getting into. Admittedly, for a short stop as you mention, a cover is not practical.

He personally didn't know of any thieves who lifted bikes into vans. His method was to hop on the bike, defeat the ignition lock and race the bike to a safe location.

[terrordbn]

Some folks have been installing these on their H2's. I am seriously considering one.

http://roadlok.com/

Aaron

Thanks for drawing our attention to this fancy looking type of disklock. No, it really looks neat and is a modern interpretation of this concept!

The only problem with this kind of lock type in general is, the bike can be carried away. Take two guys, each capable of carrying 100kg, have them slip belts thru the wheels, off it goes on a car trailer. That's exactly what happened to a neighbor of mine two blocks away from where we both live.

There is really very little you can do to stop a determined and equipped thief. Even with the heavy cables/chains, I have seen video of thieves using angle grinders with a cutting wheel to cut the cable/chain off. All you can do is make it as inconvenient as you can to steal the item you are trying to protect. (Each security item you add, adds to your inconvenience as well...)

Aaron

[XcelleraThor]

For what it's worth, I'll toss this out. Sometime ago I read an interview with a former motorcycle thief. He stated that one of the best things you can do to secure your bike is to cover it when parked. The reason is that thieves want to nonchalantly case the target to see exactly what they're getting into. Admittedly, for a short stop as you mention, a cover is not practical.

He personally didn't know of any thieves who lifted bikes into vans. His method was to hop on the bike, defeat the ignition lock and race the bike to a safe location.

Well, different countries, different cultures of theft :-(

When I got my CBR in March 2000 (brand new release in that year) I lived in an apartment with just a private parking lot in front of the building for me. I was looking for a garage, but until then, I parked there. I remember one night, after taking a leak way past midnight, giving the bike a customary check through the window, I saw the cover was gone! It was neatly folded from rear to front lying on the ground in front of the bike!

I got dressed superfast and immediately went downstairs and covered the bike, again. It was either that, or the fact, that I had the now rusty pad lock chain AND the disk lock with alarm (which was rather new at that time) both together on the bike.

A fellow biker had given me the advice, to have two different "systems" of deterrance on the bike, as thiefs tend to specialize. Or it was the new HISS (Honda Ignition Security System). Anyhow, I am still thankful towards a neighbor, I talked to the next day, for parking his car on that lot and letting me use his garage, until I finally found one to rent a space in.

Covering your bike definitely goes down the lines of "out-of-sight, out-of-mind", ultimately the garage does this.

But since car-jackings have increased here, as long as I consider this bike new, I will stick to the policy of checking who has been
following me for the last three km on my way home and if I have this "gut feeling", I take a different enterance to the residential area I live in. From there I have to pass poles only firefighters/police etc. can remove and pedestrians and my bike fits through ;-)
Luckily so far no one has gotten stuck behind me, as it would have scared the beejeeezuus out of me. Let's all hope it stays that way.