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Heads up if your getting your bike near California

Post by cOoTeR » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:55 pm


I was browsing through the parts diagrams and noticed the California Compliant bikes are getting a different ECU than the rest of the US. I live in Arizona so I was worried that I could end up with a California spec bike so I contacted my dealership about it. The owner of the dealership said that it's common for for bikes sold in the states around California to be California compliant. So if your around California there's a good chance your bike will have extra emissions equipment and possibly less power.

With my 2012 ZX10R I had a lot of issues getting a flash tune. I don't know if that's because it was a California compliant bike or off there was another reason for my issues.

For most people it probably won't be an issue but I thought everyone should be aware of it.
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Re: Heads up if your getting your bike near California

Post by Thunderdawg » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:14 pm


Thanks for the heads up. I live in Yavapai county and we here do not have the emissions equipment requirements of Maricopa and Pima counties. I will check with my dealer.
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Re: Heads up if your getting your bike near California

Post by Thunderdawg » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:43 pm


cOoTeR wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:55 pm
I was browsing through the parts diagrams and noticed the California Compliant bikes are getting a different ECU than the rest of the US. I live in Arizona so I was worried that I could end up with a California spec bike so I contacted my dealership about it. The owner of the dealership said that it's common for for bikes sold in the states around California to be California compliant. So if your around California there's a good chance your bike will have extra emissions equipment and possibly less power.

With my 2012 ZX10R I had a lot of issues getting a flash tune. I don't know if that's because it was a California compliant bike or off there was another reason for my issues.

For most people it probably won't be an issue but I thought everyone should be aware of it.
I checked with my salesman at the PV dealership and he assured me that all their Kawi road bikes are 49-state bikes. He didn't know what the case may be for dealers around Phoenix or Tucson. Good Luck!
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Re: Heads up if your getting your bike near California

Post by cOoTeR » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:03 pm


Thunderdawg wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:43 pm
cOoTeR wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:55 pm
I was browsing through the parts diagrams and noticed the California Compliant bikes are getting a different ECU than the rest of the US. I live in Arizona so I was worried that I could end up with a California spec bike so I contacted my dealership about it. The owner of the dealership said that it's common for for bikes sold in the states around California to be California compliant. So if your around California there's a good chance your bike will have extra emissions equipment and possibly less power.

With my 2012 ZX10R I had a lot of issues getting a flash tune. I don't know if that's because it was a California compliant bike or off there was another reason for my issues.

For most people it probably won't be an issue but I thought everyone should be aware of it.
I checked with my salesman at the PV dealership and he assured me that all their Kawi road bikes are 49-state bikes. He didn't know what the case may be for dealers around Phoenix or Tucson. Good Luck!
I'm 45 minutes east of Tucson and I'm pretty sure even the bikes in Tucson and phoenix don't have to do the emissions testing. So there's no real reason for them to sell the CA bikes in Arizona other than if there are concerns about people in AZ riding them into CA or CA people buying bikes across statelines and bringing them back.

The owner of my dealership made it sound like Kawasaki just ships them CA compliant bikes and they don't have a say in it. I'm hoping I don't get one and if I do I hope it won't be a notable difference in power. It will be easy to tell by looking under the tank. For the extra emissions crap.
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Re: Heads up if your getting your bike near California

Post by kman0066 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:29 pm


The biggest difference is in the charcoal canister that captures fumes from the tank, doesn't hurt power but it does add weight. Not sure on the ECU, I've not heard of special ECU coding for CA, unless the O2 sensor is utilized more. Well, a flash will take care of that for you :)
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Re: Heads up if your getting your bike near California

Post by Thunderdawg » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:38 am


I found this link and others which state that emission testing for motorcycles in AZ went away in 2013. http://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/show ... p?t=106089
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Re: Heads up if your getting your bike near California

Post by Ninja H2SX » Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:36 am


kman0066 wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:29 pm
The biggest difference is in the charcoal canister that captures fumes from the tank, doesn't hurt power but it does add weight. Not sure on the ECU, I've not heard of special ECU coding for CA, unless the O2 sensor is utilized more. Well, a flash will take care of that for you :)
Maybe check the on-line parts diagrams to see if there is a separate ECU for California.
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Re: Heads up if your getting your bike near California

Post by Ninja H2SX » Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:47 am


Ninja H2SX wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:36 am
kman0066 wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:29 pm
The biggest difference is in the charcoal canister that captures fumes from the tank, doesn't hurt power but it does add weight. Not sure on the ECU, I've not heard of special ECU coding for CA, unless the O2 sensor is utilized more. Well, a flash will take care of that for you :)
Maybe check the on-line parts diagrams to see if there is a separate ECU for California.
Update: California models do show a different ECU part number.

https://www.kawasaki.com/Parts/PartsDia ... /ZX1002BJF
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Re: Heads up if your getting your bike near California

Post by Naudica » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:18 am


Well, that sucks since I am in CA I hope it doesn't hurt performance.
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Re: Heads up if your getting your bike near California

Post by cOoTeR » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:01 am


kman0066 wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:29 pm
The biggest difference is in the charcoal canister that captures fumes from the tank, doesn't hurt power but it does add weight. Not sure on the ECU, I've not heard of special ECU coding for CA, unless the O2 sensor is utilized more. Well, a flash will take care of that for you :)
I got the information from the parts diagrams. If it was just the charcoal canister I wouldn't worry at all. But it has a different ECU and different wire harness. There are some cars that can't be tuned the traditional way of plugging into the ECU and changing things so tuning costs a lot more. My fear is that the motorcycle industry will be heading that way soon and it will most likely start in California.

I emailed the owner of the dealership I'm going through to request a non California bike. He reached out to the district or regional Kawasaki representative to make sure I get a 49 state bike. Hopefully I don't have to wait even longer for my bike though.
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