Where are the US/UK reviews?

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Re: Where are the US/UK reviews?

Post by TopCase » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:26 pm


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Re: Where are the US/UK reviews?

Post by cOoTeR » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:17 pm


http://www.zabikers.co.za/2018/02/08/20 ... pressions/

Here's another decent one. The review has a couple sentences comparing it to a couple other sport touring bikes.

"The H2 SX SE trumps the BMW K1300S and the Honda VFR 1200, and makes the Kawasaki ZZR 1400 and the Suzuki Hayabusa feel so ordinary, although in roll-on acceleration at legal speed in top gear, it won’t do any better."

They also mention that the cruise control can be set at speeds up to 200kmph (about 124 mph). That's pretty fast and I wonder if the US version will be able to be set that high?
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Re: Where are the US/UK reviews?

Post by Vmatti » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:46 pm


cOoTeR wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:17 pm
http://www.zabikers.co.za/2018/02/08/20 ... pressions/

Here's another decent one. The review has a couple sentences comparing it to a couple other sport touring bikes.

"The H2 SX SE trumps the BMW K1300S and the Honda VFR 1200, and makes the Kawasaki ZZR 1400 and the Suzuki Hayabusa feel so ordinary, although in roll-on acceleration at legal speed in top gear, it won’t do any better."

They also mention that the cruise control can be set at speeds up to 200kmph (about 124 mph). That's pretty fast and I wonder if the US version will be adv be to be set that high?
Thanks cOoTeR for the sharing this one. Good one indeed! :clap:
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Re: Where are the US/UK reviews?

Post by Vmatti » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:55 pm


Just did read Performance Bikes magazine review - it wasn't good at all.
Nothing bad about the bike itself but the story was bland.
Spent 5€ for nothing :devil:

https://www.performancebikes.co.uk/maga ... april-2018
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Re: Where are the US/UK reviews?

Post by UFO » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:40 pm


cOoTeR wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:17 pm
They also mention that the cruise control can be set at speeds up to 200kmph (about 124 mph). That's pretty fast and I wonder if the US version will be able to be set that high?
I hope so. There are places out west (NV, WY, MT, etc) where you can ride for an hour and see 1 car and have 10 mile views of the road.

And from the review:
In 2004, a film-maker called Morgan Spurlock released a movie called: Supersize Me!
The target, to eat as many burgers as possible.
As someone who watches lots of film, this is untrue. The documentary is about eating at McDonalds for every meal for a month, not eating as many burgers as possible.

Regardless, good review of the SX. :lol:
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Re: Where are the US/UK reviews?

Post by Naudica » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:33 pm


Quick Question I keep seeing people giving two figures for horse power with or without ram air. Does the SX not have ram air and the SX SE has ram air?
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Re: Where are the US/UK reviews?

Post by cOoTeR » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:59 am


Naudica wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:33 pm
Quick Question I keep seeing people giving two figures for horse power with or without ram air. Does the SX not have ram air and the SX SE has ram air?
First a very basic explanation of how boost and superchargers create more power. Both bikes have a supercharger that forces air into the engine. More air into the engine (up to a certain point) means more power because the engine can combust fuel more efficiently. The amount of pressure forced into the engine over the ambient air pressure is called boost. The supercharger can produce a certain amount of pressure over the ambient pressure, I think it's about 20 something psi of boost for the H2 SX (SE). At different environmental conditions ( temp, altitude, etc) the ambient pressure can vary greatly. So in higher hotter conditions the supercharger has less air available to suck in so the engine gets less air forced in resulting in less power.

Ram air is referring to the air that is forced into the vehicle air intake as the vehicle moves through the air. Not all vehicles have an intake that is setup to allow air to be forced in by the vehicles motion. The SX (SE) has an air inlet on the front of the bike that forces more air in as the bike moves faster through the air. As the bike accelerates more air is forced into the inlet and available for the supercharger to compress and force into the engine resulting in more power.

A vehicles power is often calculated using a dyno. There are several factors that effect the results on a dyno and the results can vary greatly. But on a dyno the bike is stationary so it cannot take advantage of the "ram air effect" unless air is forced into the air inlet at the same rate it would be as the speed increases. That is very difficult to do so they figure the measured power on the dyno without ram air. There are mathematical formulas that can figure horsepower using weight and acceleration over distance and speed that can be used to get a vehicles horse power. They either use this or another formula to get the vehicles power while it's moving to get the with ram air power rating.

Basically without ram air is how much power the vehicle makes while stationary and with ram air is the amount of power the vehicle makes while moving.
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Re: Where are the US/UK reviews?

Post by TopCase » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:49 am


Wow! That was a great explanation, cOoTer! Thanks!
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Re: Where are the US/UK reviews?

Post by EvilSteve » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:27 pm


I'm very sorry, I didn't realize that video started off in such an annoying manner.

Here's a link to the time code that doesn't contain the super-irritating BS monologue:


Here's their article: http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/ ... eview.html
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Re: Where are the US/UK reviews?

Post by cOoTeR » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:51 am


I just watched that one and read the article a bit ago. The way that guy talks annoys me in general, I hate the way he emphasizes and stretches out the vowels. Hearing him read the grapes of wrath or whatever that was, was irritating. Lol.
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