Why not a Top Case?

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Re: Why not a Top Case?

Post by pikines » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:51 pm


I think GIVI could be enought.
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Re: Why not a Top Case?

Post by Tefal » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:42 pm


black-k1 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:49 pm
peto64 wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:33 pm
Also I’ve had my bike up to 180 kph with the top box on with no issues. However no panniers.
That's like saying I towed a trailer behind my race car. :doh: Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be done. The physics are clear - wrong place for weight, wrong place for aerodynamics. :bash: But hey, it's your bike!


Pretty sure that comment applies to motorcycling universally :p


"I want to hurtle along at 186mph with just <2mm of cow skin between me and the worlds biggest belt sander" :p


But on topic can somone confirm givi rack works with side cases.

Would love to be able to use my old givi top box to hold helmets when 2 up (I wear casual riding gear, partner had to make do with my old bulky stuff so tha tg takes 1 side case)
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Re: Why not a Top Case?

Post by theoldone » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:53 pm


yes, the Givi rack work with the side cases. It is installed on my SX with the cases
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Re: Why not a Top Case?

Post by black-k1 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:05 am


Tefal wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:42 pm
black-k1 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:49 pm
peto64 wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:33 pm
Also I’ve had my bike up to 180 kph with the top box on with no issues. However no panniers.
That's like saying I towed a trailer behind my race car. :doh: Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be done. The physics are clear - wrong place for weight, wrong place for aerodynamics. :bash: But hey, it's your bike!


Pretty sure that comment applies to motorcycling universally :p


"I want to hurtle along at 186mph with just <2mm of cow skin between me and the worlds biggest belt sander" :p


But on topic can somone confirm givi rack works with side cases.

Would love to be able to use my old givi top box to hold helmets when 2 up (I wear casual riding gear, partner had to make do with my old bulky stuff so tha tg takes 1 side case)
But it doesn't apply to motorcycling universally! The physics behind how a motorcycle works are clear. Whether to ride a motorcycle or not is a personal choice and there is no science based right or wrong answer. With regards to putting a top case on a motorcycle, the physics is clear. It is the worst possible location to add weight and the worst possible location to add drag.

As I said though, it's your bike and your choice, but the science doesn't lie.
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Re: Why not a Top Case?

Post by Prof J » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:40 am


black-k1 wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:05 am
Tefal wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:42 pm
black-k1 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:49 pm
peto64 wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:33 pm
Also I’ve had my bike up to 180 kph with the top box on with no issues. However no panniers.
That's like saying I towed a trailer behind my race car. :doh: Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be done. The physics are clear - wrong place for weight, wrong place for aerodynamics. :bash: But hey, it's your bike!


Pretty sure that comment applies to motorcycling universally :p


"I want to hurtle along at 186mph with just <2mm of cow skin between me and the worlds biggest belt sander" :p


But on topic can somone confirm givi rack works with side cases.

Would love to be able to use my old givi top box to hold helmets when 2 up (I wear casual riding gear, partner had to make do with my old bulky stuff so tha tg takes 1 side case)
But it doesn't apply to motorcycling universally! The physics behind how a motorcycle works are clear. Whether to ride a motorcycle or not is a personal choice and there is no science based right or wrong answer. With regards to putting a top case on a motorcycle, the physics is clear. It is the worst possible location to add weight and the worst possible location to add drag.

As I said though, it's your bike and your choice, but the science doesn't lie.
You know, despite the loading characteristics of the weight placement of back 'top' box (I doubt many folks will over weight the box to cause stability issues for the bike), sometimes the need for extra storage makes a top box just practical. . . pizza or no.
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Re: Why not a Top Case?

Post by black-k1 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:33 am


Prof J wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:40 am
black-k1 wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:05 am
Tefal wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:42 pm
black-k1 wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:49 pm


That's like saying I towed a trailer behind my race car. :doh: Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be done. The physics are clear - wrong place for weight, wrong place for aerodynamics. :bash: But hey, it's your bike!


Pretty sure that comment applies to motorcycling universally :p


"I want to hurtle along at 186mph with just <2mm of cow skin between me and the worlds biggest belt sander" :p


But on topic can somone confirm givi rack works with side cases.

Would love to be able to use my old givi top box to hold helmets when 2 up (I wear casual riding gear, partner had to make do with my old bulky stuff so tha tg takes 1 side case)
But it doesn't apply to motorcycling universally! The physics behind how a motorcycle works are clear. Whether to ride a motorcycle or not is a personal choice and there is no science based right or wrong answer. With regards to putting a top case on a motorcycle, the physics is clear. It is the worst possible location to add weight and the worst possible location to add drag.

As I said though, it's your bike and your choice, but the science doesn't lie.
You know, despite the loading characteristics of the weight placement of back 'top' box (I doubt many folks will over weight the box to cause stability issues for the bike), sometimes the need for extra storage makes a top box just practical. . . pizza or no.
For some, they may feel that is the case. However, in over 40 years of motorcycling, riding up to 18k miles per year, commuting daily into the middle of citys, including London, doing 2 up touring holidays across Europe, I've never had the need for a top box.
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Re: Why not a Top Case?

Post by Prof J » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:38 am


black-k1 wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:33 am
Prof J wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:40 am
black-k1 wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:05 am
Tefal wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:42 pm




Pretty sure that comment applies to motorcycling universally :p


"I want to hurtle along at 186mph with just <2mm of cow skin between me and the worlds biggest belt sander" :p


But on topic can somone confirm givi rack works with side cases.

Would love to be able to use my old givi top box to hold helmets when 2 up (I wear casual riding gear, partner had to make do with my old bulky stuff so tha tg takes 1 side case)
But it doesn't apply to motorcycling universally! The physics behind how a motorcycle works are clear. Whether to ride a motorcycle or not is a personal choice and there is no science based right or wrong answer. With regards to putting a top case on a motorcycle, the physics is clear. It is the worst possible location to add weight and the worst possible location to add drag.

As I said though, it's your bike and your choice, but the science doesn't lie.
You know, despite the loading characteristics of the weight placement of back 'top' box (I doubt many folks will over weight the box to cause stability issues for the bike), sometimes the need for extra storage makes a top box just practical. . . pizza or no.
For some, they may feel that is the case. However, in over 40 years of motorcycling, riding up to 18k miles per year, commuting daily into the middle of citys, including London, doing 2 up touring holidays across Europe, I've never had the need for a top box.
Yeah, that's good. Other's mileage may vary.

It is all cool.
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Re: Why not a Top Case?

Post by pikines » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:55 pm


My H2 with original Top Case!
Givi mounts.
And original panniers.
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Re: Why not a Top Case?

Post by swharton » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:26 pm


Givi rack works with OEM bags. Someone needs to tell them this as they state their rack doesn't fit.
Nice for additional storage on my 3,000 mile rides in the summer.
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Re: Why not a Top Case?

Post by CoolDaddyGroove » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:13 am


Do you camp? What do you pack? Heck, I can do a 5 day with an 18L dry bag.
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