High beam in fog

[danham]

I will admit I make myself as annoying as possible during the day and ride with the highs on. Maybe it works, maybe it does not but after 27 years of sport bike riding I am still here. Not conclusive evidence but good enough for me. And yes every place a car could pull in front of me I am geared down ready to brake or hammer the bitch.

… and the counter argument is that after 41 years (yikes, am I really that old???) of riding, doing up to 18,000 miles a year, commuting and touring, in the city, in the countryside and on motorways/freeways, autobahns, in multiple countries across Europe, I have never ridden during daylight with my high beam on and I'm still here.

All I ask of you is to think a little here. A fellow biker is telling you that actions you take (which are actually illegal) are making their life more difficult/uncomfortable/dangerous. Is getting all "high and mighty" and saying "F**k you, I'll ride how I want" really the best, grown-up response?

Your last paragraph is a very reasonable question. I’ll try to respond in kind. As I tried to say above, perhaps with excessive snark, I try to be very selective about when I use high beam during daylight. Your comments will make me a bit more selective, so I thank you for making them.

May I respectfully suggest that words like “selfish” and “ignorant” also contributed to this thread heading off into the rhubarb.

-dan

[PhukDD]

I will admit I make myself as annoying as possible during the day and ride with the highs on. Maybe it works, maybe it does not but after 27 years of sport bike riding I am still here. Not conclusive evidence but good enough for me. And yes every place a car could pull in front of me I am geared down ready to brake or hammer the bitch.

… and the counter argument is that after 41 years (yikes, am I really that old???) of riding, doing up to 18,000 miles a year, commuting and touring, in the city, in the countryside and on motorways/freeways, autobahns, in multiple countries across Europe, I have never ridden during daylight with my high beam on and I'm still here.

All I ask of you is to think a little here. A fellow biker is telling you that actions you take (which are actually illegal) are making their life more difficult/uncomfortable/dangerous. Is getting all "high and mighty" and saying "F**k you, I'll ride how I want" really the best, grown-up response?

I think we will just agree to disagree. Perhaps get some sun glasses. I have never been blinded by daytime headlights.I really don’t understand the issue. And as far as legality, that is questionable, but the least of my worries on this bike.

[Reciprocal]

I don't drive with the high beam but if I did and a driver flashed his brights at me, I'd take it as a compliment. The light is feeble.

[Burmashave]

I will admit I make myself as annoying as possible during the day and ride with the highs on. Maybe it works, maybe it does not but after 27 years of sport bike riding I am still here. Not conclusive evidence but good enough for me. And yes every place a car could pull in front of me I am geared down ready to brake or hammer the bitch.

… and the counter argument is that after 41 years (yikes, am I really that old???) of riding, doing up to 18,000 miles a year, commuting and touring, in the city, in the countryside and on motorways/freeways, autobahns, in multiple countries across Europe, I have never ridden during daylight with my high beam on and I'm still here.

All I ask of you is to think a little here. A fellow biker is telling you that actions you take (which are actually illegal) are making their life more difficult/uncomfortable/dangerous. Is getting all "high and mighty" and saying "F**k you, I'll ride how I want" really the best, grown-up response?

I think we will just agree to disagree. Perhaps get some sun glasses. I have never been blinded by daytime headlights.I really don’t understand the issue. And as far as legality, that is questionable, but the least of my worries on this bike.

Fair enough. But have you given thought to the fact that tractor trailers have a multitude of mirrors, all aimed at the driver's eyes? Just a different perspective.

[black-k1]

I will admit I make myself as annoying as possible during the day and ride with the highs on. Maybe it works, maybe it does not but after 27 years of sport bike riding I am still here. Not conclusive evidence but good enough for me. And yes every place a car could pull in front of me I am geared down ready to brake or hammer the bitch.

… and the counter argument is that after 41 years (yikes, am I really that old???) of riding, doing up to 18,000 miles a year, commuting and touring, in the city, in the countryside and on motorways/freeways, autobahns, in multiple countries across Europe, I have never ridden during daylight with my high beam on and I'm still here.

All I ask of you is to think a little here. A fellow biker is telling you that actions you take (which are actually illegal) are making their life more difficult/uncomfortable/dangerous. Is getting all "high and mighty" and saying "F**k you, I'll ride how I want" really the best, grown-up response?

Your last paragraph is a very reasonable question. I’ll try to respond in kind. As I tried to say above, perhaps with excessive snark, I try to be very selective about when I use high beam during daylight. Your comments will make me a bit more selective, so I thank you for making them.

May I respectfully suggest that words like “selfish” and “ignorant” also contributed to this thread heading off into the rhubarb.

-dan

While I completely accept this is not your response, this is why words like "selfish" and "ignorant" are sometimes appropriate! "I've never had a problem so it can't be a problem for anyone else …. "

I think we will just agree to disagree. Perhaps get some sun glasses. I have never been blinded by daytime headlights.I really don’t understand the issue. And as far as legality, that is questionable, but the least of my worries on this bike.

[PhukDD]

I will admit I make myself as annoying as possible during the day and ride with the highs on. Maybe it works, maybe it does not but after 27 years of sport bike riding I am still here. Not conclusive evidence but good enough for me. And yes every place a car could pull in front of me I am geared down ready to brake or hammer the bitch.

… and the counter argument is that after 41 years (yikes, am I really that old???) of riding, doing up to 18,000 miles a year, commuting and touring, in the city, in the countryside and on motorways/freeways, autobahns, in multiple countries across Europe, I have never ridden during daylight with my high beam on and I'm still here.

All I ask of you is to think a little here. A fellow biker is telling you that actions you take (which are actually illegal) are making their life more difficult/uncomfortable/dangerous. Is getting all "high and mighty" and saying "F**k you, I'll ride how I want" really the best, grown-up response?

I think we will just agree to disagree. Perhaps get some sun glasses. I have never been blinded by daytime headlights.I really don’t understand the issue. And as far as legality, that is questionable, but the least of my worries on this bike.

Fair enough. But have you given thought to the fact that tractor trailers have a multitude of mirrors, all aimed at the driver's eyes? Just a different perspective.

I drove a semi for 10 years...never blinded then either.

[PhukDD]

it is proven to help. I respect your opinion, but disagree with it as do many others.

[Burmashave]

… and the counter argument is that after 41 years (yikes, am I really that old???) of riding, doing up to 18,000 miles a year, commuting and touring, in the city, in the countryside and on motorways/freeways, autobahns, in multiple countries across Europe, I have never ridden during daylight with my high beam on and I'm still here.

All I ask of you is to think a little here. A fellow biker is telling you that actions you take (which are actually illegal) are making their life more difficult/uncomfortable/dangerous. Is getting all "high and mighty" and saying "F**k you, I'll ride how I want" really the best, grown-up response?

I think we will just agree to disagree. Perhaps get some sun glasses. I have never been blinded by daytime headlights.I really don’t understand the issue. And as far as legality, that is questionable, but the least of my worries on this bike.

Fair enough. But have you given thought to the fact that tractor trailers have a multitude of mirrors, all aimed at the driver's eyes? Just a different perspective.

I drove a semi for 10 years...never blinded then either.

Good to know. I was essentially quoting from my moto instruction many years ago.

[Reciprocal]

The light is feeble.

I want to walk back the comment. I spoke before actually riding at night with it. It seems fine to me now.

[Prof J]

Danham, any stronger low beam replacement setups?